BroMayn on Kinnon on Keller on Fitch on Kimball

kinnon —  December 13, 2008 — 1 Comment

He wouldn’t do it, so I had to. The title, that is. My friend and fellow Missional Tribe elder, Brother Maynard has riffed off of Keller, Fitch’s and my contribution to the conversation begun around Kimball’s Missional Misgivings. (I’ve decided I’m only misgiving this Christmas, actually.)

Here’s a small part of what BroMayn says in his post titled, What’s a Megachurch to Do?,

I remain convinced the megachurch is generally an unhelpful model for the road ahead. In addition to being generally less efficient with resources than smaller expressions of the local church (by any model), I tend to think that they foster a form of complacency among many members, isolating and insulating them from the culture around them rather than encouraging direct engagement. Passivity is the byproduct, and yes, these are some rather sweeping generalizations.

I should note that Scot McKnight’s makes a brief comment about the conversation in his Weekly Meanderings post from much earlier this morning. Thanks for the link love, Scot.

I have another post to put up on this topic tentatively called Discipleship vs Consumerism. It exists in Novamind Mindmap form right now. Your welcome to have a look at it, if you’d like. God willing and the Don River don’t rise, I hope to have it up on Monday morning. (This week got away from me.)

And. As I’ve mentioned on Twitter a lot of late, I love Novamind.



A television editor, writer & director since 1978. A Christian since 1982. More than a little frustrated with the Church in the West since late in the last millennium.

One response to BroMayn on Kinnon on Keller on Fitch on Kimball

  1. After reading your Vulcan MindMeld graphic, I think what is missing from what a lot of people are saying is the recognition of the place of the emotions, not the expression of emotion, but the full range of emotions that are a part of our human existence. In church, for example, it should be appropriate for me to cry for both sad and happy reasons, or to be angry at injustice or cheer reconciliation and redemption.
    Steve from Toronto touched on this obliquely by pointing to the sermon-centric worship service. I’m convinced after reading about Behavioral Economics (Danny Kahneman)that our emotions precede our intellectual apprehension of reality or truth. In a way, our intellect serves to rationalize what our emotions intuitively tell us. If this is true in economics, then it is true for the church. The problem is when a church creates emotional experiences for the sake of experience itself in order to be entertaining or not boring. This style is as much as a Christological statement as the most boring intellectually rigorous Presbyterian service is. Each is a statement about who we think Christ to be. And in all cases, Christ looks like the one who has created the service.
    I am convinced that the emotions lead us to the desire to act upon those ideas that have been presented with intellectual integrity. Application, implementation, execution brings the emotions and the intellect together in order for us to be more whole people who are capable of being disciples.


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