They discuss what it means to be a Pastor in Post-Christendom – a calling that lacks social significance in the eyes of much of society. Gary asks whether perhaps today's ministers in a post-Christendom context resist "missional" as it appears to further devalue their social standing.
UPDATE: Please read Dave's post, The Kind of Pastors We Need after you've seen the video below.
The image from Get Religion graphically suggests what North American Post-Christendom, aka the United States of Canada, looks like today.
The video ends with both Dave and Gary telling us what their hopes are for the church as we move into the teens of this 21st Century.
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