Pastors in Post-Christendom – Fitch & Nelson

kinnon —  October 18, 2010 — 2 Comments


This is the third (and, for the moment, final) segment of the conversation between Dave Fitch and Gary Nelson.

They discuss what it means to be a Pastor in Post-Christendom – a calling that lacks social significance in the eyes of much of society. Gary asks whether perhaps today's ministers in a post-Christendom context resist "missional" as it appears to further devalue their social standing.

UPDATE: Please read Dave's post, The Kind of Pastors We Need after you've seen the video below.

The image from Get Religion graphically suggests what North American Post-Christendom, aka the United States of Canada, looks like today.

The video ends with both Dave and Gary telling us what their hopes are for the church as we move into the teens of this 21st Century.

Pastors in Post-Christendom from Bill Kinnon on Vimeo.

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A television editor, writer & director since 1978. A Christian since 1982. More than a little frustrated with the Church in the West since late in the last millennium.

2 responses to Pastors in Post-Christendom – Fitch & Nelson

  1. Thanks, Bill, for posting another great conversation!

    Part of what was said reminded me of Ed Stetzer’s remarks regarding the codependent cycle in the churches: pastors who do more themselves receive more recognition and praise from their congregation and are seen as indispensable which in turn discourages the pastor to empower others through delegation, deliberate commissioning of others, and renouncing that special status of authority he is given.

    Given the fact that pastors don’t have social significance outside the walls of their own church, I’m wondering whether the time has come to say good bye to the clergy-laity model altogether and throw off all the baggage that comes with it. And I don’t say this lightly, still being a full-time minister myself.

  2. EXCELLENT! As a pastor in Canada, I absolutely LOVED this conversation. What I particularly loved is the sense that clergy doesn’t have social significance. It means we have to befriend people on their terms, as people, rather than exercising our “spiritual authority” over them.
    It’s not easy, but it’s a lot more fun, and authentic 🙂


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